In the recent case of G v C [2020] EWFC B35 (OJ), the judge dismissed a husband and wife’s cross applications to vary a Rose order. Partner Toby Atkinson and Trainee solicitor Alice Russell in our Divorce and Family team examine the decision.



The parties, both in their mid-50s, were married for 27 years before the wife (W) issued divorce proceedings in May 2018. A dispute arose in W’s application for financial remedies in relation to amounts of money, totalling some £7m, which were gifted to the parties by H’s uncle and aunt (U&A) over a period of 17 years. Alongside the divorce and financial remedy proceedings, U&A had brought a claim in Italy against W in an attempt to recover the sums gifted.

The final hearing of W’s application for financial remedies took place in October 2019, during which W and H reached an agreement on the division of their assets. The judge, Recorder Nicholas Allen QC, was invited to approve the terms of the agreement as a Rose order, which he did.


What is a Rose order?

Generally, when parties reach an agreement, the terms of the agreement are finalised in a consent order which is approved and sealed by the court. This is not always possible on the day the agreement is made. In Rose v Rose, the parties reached an agreement, and although the judge approved the terms, there was insufficient time to draw up a consent order before the court closed. Nevertheless, it was determined that in expressing his approval of the agreement, the judge was, in effect, making an order in the agreed terms. A Rose order is, therefore, by definition, “one that is final and binding notwithstanding the fact that it still requires perfection and sealing”.

In the case in question, following the final hearing, the parties were not able to perfect a consent order. The matter returned to court, and both parties made applications to vary the terms of the Rose order.


The wife’s case

W sought to have the Rose order varied to require H to provide her with various indemnities, ie that he pay her a lump sum to cover the costs of the Italian litigation and the costs she had accrued since the Rose order was made.

W’s legal team relied on the case of Thwaite v Thwaite, which provides the court with jurisdiction to amend an order where:

  1. The order remains executory (ie, it is yet to be carried out);
  2. There had been a change in circumstances; and
  3. It would be inequitable to hold the party to the terms of the order.


What did the court decide?

First, the judge considered whether a Rose order could, similarly to an ‘ordinary’ order, be varied if the Thwaite jurisdiction is engaged. He confirmed that:

  • Rose order is not in any germane respects different to any other order;
  • the test as to whether a Rose order is variable under the Thwaite jurisdiction remains the same; and
  • he was entitled to rely on Thwaite and the subsequent line of authorities which relate to ‘ordinary’ orders.


The judge then turned to the question of whether the Thwaite jurisdiction was engaged.

  1. Was the Rose order executory?
    The judge confirmed that the order was executory. While some elements of the order had been complied with, others had not. He was, therefore, satisfied that the Rose order was executory as operative terms of the order remained unimplemented.
  2. Had there been a change of circumstances?
    W’s case was that there had been a change of circumstances simply because the agreement had not been implemented in full. The judge disagreed. The details of the Rose order were, he said, such that “it must therefore have been obvious to both parties that there remained a degree of work to be done” and that as a result of the nature of the litigation thus far, that work could prove contentious.W also argued that the additional costs incurred since the approval of the Rose order represented a change of circumstances. Again, the judge disagreed. He stated that it would have been apparent to the parties that they would incur additional costs given the further work envisaged by the Rose order.The judge did not, therefore, consider that there had been a change in circumstances such that the Thwaite jurisdiction was engaged. Nonetheless, he went on to consider whether the final test of the Thwaite jurisdiction was met.
  3. Would it be inequitable to hold the wife to the terms of the Rose order?
    In short, the judge was unable to find it inequitable to hold W to the terms of the Rose order. He formed the view that he could not make any factual findings in relation to either party’s evidence. This was essentially because:

    1. Findings of fact on disputed issues should only be made by a tribunal having heard, read and tested all the relevant evidence;
    2. Such findings should not be made when a final hearing has halted part way through as a result of the parties having reached a negotiated settlement;
    3. Some six/seven months had passed since the final hearing, and there was a risk that if he were to make factual findings in the way sought after such a period of time, there may be procedural issues or other unfairness

Of note is that H argued that W was unable to say that it would be unconscionable for her to be held to the terms of the Rose order as she had originally agreed them. The judge pointed out that this must be wrong as a general statement of principle because in Thwaite the order had been made by consent yet was still successfully challenged.

The judge found that the Thwaite jurisdiction was not engaged and he was not able to “insert” the orders W sort into the Rose order.


The husband’s case

At the same time, H sought:

  1. An order for permission to disclose a transcript of W’s oral evidence at the final hearing to U&A so that it could be adduced by them in the Italian proceedings; and
  2. Various disclosure orders against W.


His application was dismissed.

In relation to the first order he sought, the judge determined that the application was one for U&A to make, not H.

The judge considered that even if the court was wrong on this point, the starting point was that financial remedy proceedings are held in private. He said it was “important that the integrity of the privacy of these proceedings is preserved insofar as it is possible to do so”. Therefore, the public nature of the Italian proceedings weighed against the grant of H’s application.

The judge also noted:

  1. It was relevant that financial disclosure in English proceedings is produced under compulsion, rather than voluntarily;
  2. U&A were not parties to the English proceedings and H was not a party to the Italian proceedings; and
  3. Even if the transcript of W’s evidence was “relevant and useful” in the Italian proceedings, this was “not in and of itself a good enough reason”.

H also sought disclosure in relation to W’s relationship with her partner and her new business. It was correct, as a general proposition, that W’s obligations of full and frank disclosure continued, at least, until the Rose order was sealed. In respect of the disclosure sought regarding W’s partner, H argued that W was cohabiting with her partner, and this was relevant to the court’s assessment of W’s needs.

W’s written evidence, however, stated that they were not in an established relationship, they were not cohabiting, and there was no financial interdependency. The judge found that he was not in a position to make adverse findings in respect of W’s untested written evidence. Further, the ambit of the disclosure sought was so broad that to grant the relief sought would be disproportionate.

The judge declined to grant the disclosure sought in relation to W’s “new business”, as H had not chosen to pursue the issue at the final hearing.

Accordingly, the applications made by both parties were dismissed in their entirety.



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